The settings are indeed a bit intimidating at first glance! Do you use Discord? I think it would be a good idea to ask for a quick toggle in game to change from a more immersive WASD for controls gameplay to a less immersive, more traditional WASD camera control. Discord seems to be where most of the magic happens in that regard.
That’s a really nice point actually, and I completely get what you mean. It does feel a bit off when you’re invited out but then everyone ends up sitting separately or at random tables, it kind of breaks the whole “meeting up” feeling.
And yeah, being invited out instead of always being the one organizing things makes a big difference. Those small social interactions are what make the world feel alive when they work properly. Otherwise the game end up being more of a management style game than a life sim. Life is very random and unpredictable, and when zois can invite your on their own without the player planning it actively, it feels a bit more like life itself.
Do you think the seating issue is the main thing breaking those moments right now, or is there any other behaviour during meetups that makes them feel off for you?
They have already fixed up that you can chit chat with people alone without inviting everyone into that discussion so that one was a huge relief .
Something i did notice today was that the guy who invited my gen 4 out today he barely spoke to her unless he was spoken to and then he ran off in the middle of the meet up and that said it all
I ended the event then because it felt pointless for my zoi to sit around .
It was clearly all on my zoi to lead the conversation so it made no sense why he invited her out for a cup of coffee ( or tea on her sake since she is not a coffee person like her mom ) in the first place.. why even bother why the hassle did he lose a bet ?
If he had been as forthcoming as he was in his text it would have made more sense.. she felt a great discomfort when she left that coffee shop.. totally awkward
i feel so sorry for this gen in overall
It has just been one bad thing after another for her
In all .. since our zoi’s cannot say goodbye or tell anyone that they need to leave early because something important came up it makes situations like this one look bad
I run without autonomous nowadays because the game isn’t getting that some zoi’s is just not into being a social butterfly so it’s forcing your shy zoi to burn themselves alive in the sun instead of having the zoi who actually invited them over to take the leading role
Shy zoi’s often need a stronger a more forthcoming part who can coach them and right now the empathy isn’t working as it used to do and this was a fine example how much more work that needs to be done
The zoi’s used to be more sensitive.. but now it is what it is
I’m sorry but this made me laugh a lot. It’s true that it just doesn’t make sense >.<
I get what you mean about shy Zois . It would make a big difference if personality actually influenced how they handle social situations, like letting the other person take the lead or having more subtle ways to interact instead of being pushed into everything. I also had an introverted zoi who was all day outside his house, interacting with strangers, which was frustrating.
Also the lack of simple things like saying goodbye or leaving early really affects immersion. It’s those small interactions that can make everything feel more believable.
Seems you seem to think it used to be better before, did it change after a specific update? What changes do you think have made it worse?
It doesn’t really have to be huge things in basic
If you think about it how many of us wouldn’t love to get few simple lines that would explain why some zoi’s is behaving like they do ? Why are they fighting .. What’s wrong with them? What is going on here?
Some social situations doesn’t really add up as it is right now for example why did he run away , why was it all on my zoi to lead the entire conversation when he who was the one who asked her out.
there are some other social things that i somehow feel is more important then a cheesy date , like keeping the friends to your zoi or if you are having a zoi family and try to squeeze in some time so they could do something together.
So far it is only one way communication - the friend or friends can call your zoi they can even spontaneous stop by every now and then ( i have been forced to drop whatever my zoi have been doing because one friend has decided to pop by ) but when it comes down to allowing our zoi to spontaneous visit their friends or try to figure out if they are busy it’s nearly impossible and for the most part they are not home or they are ready to leave because they got something else they need to do.
In the Sims 4 we had the pancake mod “ can i come over?” that made a huge difference and with this mod you could make a simple phonecall asking” Hey are you busy ? can i come over?” and if your sim were sad you had another option to add into that phonecall.
If the friend were busy they told you “ I am so sorry but i am working/ being busy with another friend/ got personal errants to tend to/ about to head into class but can talk later)
It was nothing fancy but that tiny mod did wonder
So i can just imagine how InZoi would look like if we were given few lines to ease things up if your zoi ends up in a situation like this like my zoi did and i have seen people have made some wishes in the wishlist about being able to say goodbye or to apologize and so on.
Oh yes i mean Mariah is my first zoi that is like a kitty she is so soft and when you get those special zoi’s you feel a little more for them you know?
It is always so much fun to see who’s genes is passing on to the next gen 
Mariah got her dad 100% and then she managed to get another dose of floof.
The zoi’s were more sensitive in the beginning as in they could easily react upon a homeless if they saw one sitting on the street and it didn’t take long before they ran up to the homeless and gave that person some food or a few coins all on their own.. They also paid more attention to those who felt less somehow… today we do not see that same level of empathy unless you poke them.. i don’t think it’s a typical “ one patch broke it all kind of thing” i would say it is more .. They have added a lot of new interactions and some have been removed and in the middle of all .. yeah something happened.. something is missing..
The game is growing and when new things is being added it needs to work with the old things
So maybe things will balance itself along the way ( i am rooting for that 
)
Oh by the way no worries it was meant to bring a smile because the situation was just silly
Not worrying at all! I just like to discuss the game and zoi personality and behaviour is one of the most interesting topics to discuss, because we all play differently and others can spot nuances that one misses completely.
I get what you mean about something feeling “missing” compared to before. It’s probably like you said, with new systems being added and others changing, things just aren’t fully connected yet. Hopefully it balances out over time.
I wonder, could it be the removal of the karma system? The way you describe how certain “softer” zois tended to certain behaviour… I wonder if it had been the removal of karma. We will be getting the karma system back later this year so let’s check then!
Also, Mariah sounds really adorable 
those “special” Zois definitely hit different, you get a bit more attached to them.
mornin
heavens i am beat.. me and my family spent an day on the country side was driving us home late last night
Yes i was pondering a bit about it i think with all the new data the game is trying to “absorb and learn” in how to take it all in .
With growth comes pain and what we have looking at for sometime now strange glitches and so on is without a doubt growing pain.
Every large sized game i have in my library ( i bet you all got some to and know what it is about ) have been going through the same same thing.
I am pretty sure now when the team is working on iron out and gluing the pieces together we will see one thing or two start happening in game.
I understand that the game feels “dumb” ( i even had psycat saying to me ones that it felt like a useless bot and that made me sad ) it’s not dumb it just lacks information and looking into how the team have been working .. given time it will work ..at this point it’s about building bridges and iron out all those dumps that came with all the new
yes i got it confirmed about two days ago i think that more will come.
True i mean if you look into how far the game have come at this point.. it’s incredible it’s not just a shell anymore we can see the vision appearing ( or at least we are getting strong hints) of what the team got in mind for InZoi
The team is now entering the hardest bit in all
Giving the zoi’s a voice so they can tell us the the story in who they are.
Maxis worked on this for years with less tech at their disposal but in all their hard work paid off The Sims 1 to 3 was a huge success
The sims had their own unique voice and they told us their story and allowed us to take our place and live among among them and by doing that we were taught how they lived their lives ( My favorite was by far the magic town- do you guys have a favorite in that serie? ) )
InZoi is at the beginning and i think what we are looking at right now is a new branch when it comes down to this category of games i just hope the team won’t give in and make another copy cat.
I know how some folk would like this game to influent what the sims did but by doing that what will be left that says InZoi? It’s going to be like playing the sims a bit more fancy but still .. -.-
When it comes down to all none us really want inZoi’s own voice to drown
We have seen traditions and more lurking in the background and it’s going to be something when those special features will take it’s place and become part of our zoi’s daily life ( also i am still waiting until one of my zoi’s can adopt a cat or a dog or a guinea pigs )
It’s going to make an impact because it’s going to define the zoi’s a bit
oke time to grab more coffee hah
I wish you all a happy sleepy Sunday
Sounds like a really nice (and tiring ) day though, those countryside trips always hit you the next day
Describing it as “growing pains” actually feels pretty accurate. It does seem like the game is in that phase where a lot of systems are being added, but they’re not fully connected yet. Hopefully once they start tying everything together, we’ll see those weird glitches settle down a bit.
I too agree strongly that the last thing Inzoi needs is to become like the sims. Inzoi has a very strong personality that has nothing to do with the sims, in my opinion and losing it would be a shame.
Happy almost-over Sunday to you as well!
Thank you so much i hope you are ok too o/
yeah i am still beat..hah but it is what it is it’s taxing driving when it’s dark and all
I couldn’t agree more and now when they are entering a vital part of the development it’s important to stick to the theme.
How is your game today ? I hope everybody else is doing fine today despite it is monday 
Yeah i mean we will see more flukes happening and today my game decided to give me a fish slap.
I ended up on my butt that was for sure so i am right now reinstalling the whole game and clearing out everything just incase i had some old files lingering that was causing problems, i have moved out my save and my Canvas so they should be fine.
I decided to move gen 4 back to Dowon because .. i am going to be honest , she have been given strong indication lately that someone or something have been pulling her there, She have been dreaming even the fortune cards told her just one thing “ are you sure you haven’t left somebody behind? “ She was even drawing a silhouette of him one day and she is not even painter or creative.. she just grabbed that brush one day and started painting .. i was so baffled i figured i got to go back with her to Dowon and see what this is all about so i spent the entire Sunday running around checking out their favorite sites and all that i could remember and nothing…. the field trip gave zero result
It was without a doubt a memory.
instead guess what happened ? the game started to mass produce elders and took the Blissbay townies from Blissbay and pushed the dowon citizens on the side
In short Dowon became the new Blissbay.
There were barely any Dowon citizens left in the end
If i am going to be crude it felt like the game was trolling me hahah but i couldn’t be mad i mean it was so hilarious and when i started laughing of course she did to so today i went “ nah no worries my little gen 4 you are staying in Cahaya that’s final” and guess what happened? she was smiling like the sun… i was like “ omg there goes my brain” when she came back to Cahaya the mean streak had taken over and everybody was so insanly nasty towards one and another and her friend ( the only one she had) broke off the friendship just like that without reason.. so yeah here i am reinstalling hahah
It feels great that we can save and upload and safe guard the most important gameplay 
I got my notebook and all but as you know you can remember things wrongly.. and..when you are having an old save of course your zoi’s remember but can just point out moments that had an impact on them. by dreaming about them or getting hints when they are doing fortune telling and so on.. creative zoi’s can paint .. i know mariah’s mom despite that she was a diva she was a really good painter and she drew uncle owen one day so they can express if they are thinking about somebody or something using painting… and for my gen 4 that was the moment that had an impact on her was when she lost her hun and if i am going to be very honest all i have in my notebook that she had been given a notification that somebody close to her had died in a car accident.. and when he didn’t show up at her place later on.. i just drew the conclusion it was him .. we had a different game 7 -8 months ago to be fair so.. i mean who wouldn’t do that?
she was barely present when her parents died in the starvation bug so it seem it had a lesser impact on the memory bank.. oh well going to put the files back together it seem like the game is up again..
I hope you all are having a better Monday 
Have a wonderful evening
Hugs 
That sounds like such a rollercoaster haha honestly the way your Gen 4 was getting all those hints and dreams had me convinced something big was about to happen… and then the game just went full chaos mode instead 
The town swap and random behavior changes sound wild though, I don’t blame you for reinstalling at all. Hopefully that fixes it, because your story actually sounds really interesting when the game isn’t fighting you every step of the way. Is you game better now? Have you thought of sharing your stories on tumbrl?
My game has been a lot more chill lately, but mostly because I’ve just been using CAZ to create Zoi presets, and honestly I find it super relaxing. I do miss proper gameplay, but at least this way I can still be creative without the game throwing surprises at me every five minutes >.<
Hope your reinstall went smoothly and your Tuesday was less chaotic 
Thank you so much !
Well my game decided to flip on me instead
it crashed 3 times when i was about to login to the world but turning off HAGS helped and deleting the ini files and .. let’s see what i did more yes i removed auto save and i also noticed it made a difference by removing patterns.
Being a creator as you know it you do have a huge bunch of those patterns all set and ready for you when you want to create something
Now i had to remove a whole a lot of them and just keep a handful.
i am not sure what happened after the birthday patch but something didn’t turn out as it was meant to.
It looks like a leak as in how the game behave itself.
I figured i am going to fill out a report if it happens again
You know.. it doesn’t sound like a bad idea at least have a place to dump down the story.. we all got a story that has been going on for eons right ? it would be nice in all to have a meeting place
I hope you all have been having a nice morning so far i found myself going face to face with bullies that was trying to make another indie company look bad because they were sticking to a certain theme..even before i had my morning coffee..
Oh yes i mean some zoi’s are amazingly chaotic and dramatic
All you can do as a creator is to sit and watch the reality show taking it’s place hahah
Oh nice ! I have seen some amazing creations when it comes down to CAZ ( i have also downloaded a bunch of outfits ) I can’t blame you for sticking to CAZ to be honest , you can really create almost anything from what i have seen.
Do you have any favorite category when it comes down to the outfits ?
What a messy morning it seem the power is coming and going today, we had this nasty storm few days ago ( Dave) that caused a lot of damage for some and i suppose they are stil working on those repairs .
I can only agree InZoi can be amazingly peaceful it all depend what you are doing.
I figured i was going to let my gen 4 to work on her garden today but if the power is going to behave like this..heaven knows
I suppose you can It is what it is 
I wish you all the best with all of your creations today
Oh wow good question… between a multiplayer neighborhood and more meaningful careers, it’s hard to choose… I dream of being able to play with my friends online in Inzoi but yesterday I got my Zoi to buy a bakery and I found that the workplace interactions weren’t very well developed and a bit boring, there are no objectives offered, yet there’s real potential.
If I had to choose I’d say the career option… I can’t wait to see how the game will evolve.
Oh wow that sounds like a whole battle just to get the game running 
but honestly respect for figuring all that out; turning off HAGS, clearing files, removing patterns… that’s some serious troubleshooting. It really does sound like something got a bit unstable after the patch, so yeah if it happens again definitely worth reporting it.
If you do come to tumbrl, let me know your nickname there! I mostly post CC and some random screenshots from my game, not storylines per se, but reading everyone else’s storylines is fun. Yours sounds interesting, it’d be cool if you shared.
I don’t think I have one favorite category, but I definitely gravitate more towards tops and shoes; particularly the shoes that were added with the December update, they look great with every combination. I think I overuse them a bit, but I can’t help it haha
Also that storm sounds rough, I hope things stabilize soon for you. Power going in and out is the worst, especially when you’re just trying to relax and play.
Good luck with your Gen 4 garden arc (if the power allows it 
) and I hope the game behaves for you today!
Wishing you the same, both with your creations and surviving the chaos <3
Lowkey I feel like if careers were more fleshed out (objectives, progression, maybe even events or challenges), it would add so much to everyday gameplay. Multiplayer would be amazing, but if the core systems aren’t deep enough yet, I wonder if it would feel a bit empty after the novelty wears off?
Seems like we’re getting a career improvement patch soon but it’s not clear how they’ll be improved. We barely know we’ll have interviews and promotions/demotions but it’s unclear how that will actually play out in game.
If they improved careers, what would you want the most? More goals, more randomness, or more control over how your Zoi runs things?
Hey ^^ Yeah totally agree on the career or even business side, I bought an establishment but when I go there, apart from “attracting customers”, “serving nicely” (and even then I don’t see any concrete action, like going to get an order and serving it) or “baking/cooking” but that’s for my own use and not for customers when I do it. Or maybe I’m not doing it right.
This afternoon, I tried switching by buying a fitness club but it was even worse, customers weren’t even entering my club lol. I maybe don’t understand all the subtleties… but anyway if it were possible to actually take an order, prepare it or serve it in a bakery for example, that would be awesome! Same thing, I struggle to generate revenue, I have the feeling it works better when I’m not in my business and I let my employees manage it 
After that, for the other standard careers (like lawyer, etc.) it would be nice to be able to do real actions, I don’t know how, and maybe it’s way too complicated and heavy but that would be a dream haha.
So, to answer your question, being able to do real actions in the job, having concrete interactions with customers, employee management (training…), etc… That would be great because for now it’s a bit boring.
Hi there again! Honestly I feel your struggle. Businesses are not working great right now. There are quite a few bugs, especially with employee behavior and management features, so a lot of what you’re experiencing isn’t just you doing something wrong, it’s really the game messing up >.<. I’m really hoping we get a hotfix for that soon because the potential is so good, but it has a lot of holes currently.
I haven’t tried a fitness club yet, but I have run a bakery and didn’t any have issues with displaying and selling items, so now I’m wondering if there might be something small going on in your setup.
Would you mind showing me a screenshot of your business management panel/settings? Maybe there’s a toggle or setting that’s off. The system is honestly not very straightforward, so it’s easy to miss something.
And yeah I 100% agree with you. Being able to actually take orders, prepare them, and serve customers directly would make such a huge difference. Right now it kind of feels like you’re managing from the outside instead of being in the role.
Mornin 
heavens being so sleepy..
Thank you kindly.
Oh nice!
Do you shape your own tops or do you tweak those we are having already ?
Do you look forward to the new collection that is on the way?
High heels and so on i think it was ?
Yips it’s sad in all but to be fair the game is in early access so facing road dumps will forever be part of the picture until the team have figured out what is causing the game to crash and so on.
Yeah i mean I bet we all got a nice check list before we make the call
I turned on HAGS 2 days ago and it works so i have started to add some CC’s back and also today i am thinking about reuploading my patterns in hope it will hold
If the game crashes again atleast that gives an indication what is not working.
Yes Dave did a lot of damage and despite it has been a week they are working around the clock.
I think somebody mentioned that we haven’t seen a storm like this in a long time and if the records are true that was 1969 , the trees didn’t stand a chance we even saw a pinetree snap like it was a stick
Our town is sheltered we live in a valley more or less so we are being blessed for the most part but now since Dave found a way in and discovered we have a lake connected to our town so that was that
For sure i will let you know when i am back in the saddle with the story and all but alas so it’s going to take a while.
My own batteries are pretty low right now so i find it is more peaceful to decorate and reshaping the island for now I am pretty sure we all can relate in how it is when you cannot muster enough energy to do much else.
Yeah about that since the date system is flawed i am currenty considering in creating a guy suited for my gen 4.
It doesn’t work..she was invited for another coffee meeting date ( despite that she is not into coffee).. and it all fell flat, the guy didn’t lift a damn finger.. .she was sitting on that coffee date holding a plate with some dried bread forcing herself to be something she wasn’t and she was ready to break a part when it was over .. i had my hands full to make her happy again
sure the guy keeps sending some flirty text every now and then after that but that is just it.
Lucky in all you can reset relationships and so on so you do not have to sit around as a creator feeling helpless when you see your favorite zoi feeling awful about themselves because some systems is not fully fleshed out yet.
I don’t like being a god but .. when it comes down to protecting
The labels are not working as they used to despite that my setting is set on the lowest when it comes down to the romantic things you can be sure it will only take the zoi’s about a day or two before it will be all about marriage and reproducing..
It is perfect if you are having a storyline that is shifting rapidly and you just want to build a family tree fast but if you want to stop for a moment and let the zoi’s live a little.. it’s tough
the old dating system was better because :
1 . When the settings was set on the lowest it took the zoi’s some time before something romantic came out of the relationship they were having.
2 . Why the old system was better was because your zoi was the one who got the invitation even if it was just a friendly date you can be sure your zoi was invited out on multi occasion.
I still remember how many times my little zoi went out on a date with her lover and he was the one who made the calls until she had finally crawled out of her shell.
They were dating a lot and he could either turn up on her door step with a bottle of wine or with another gift (it was so adorable ) but he was the one who was making the calls setting up those dates until she felt secured enough to make those calls herself to invite him over.
It was so neatly done because the dating events always ended up when they were off work and had nothing else to do.
It was perfect and so well balanced.
3. Something i truly do like about the new things that has been added is the flirty text your zoi can get but it would be nice if your zoi could get access one day and send some flirty text as well if they are in the mood.
Today the game want your zoi to be in the front seat and it also “demands” ( as in we are getting some really strong indication on that in form of wishes) ) that your zoi should be the one who delivers the gifts and not the way around and the gifts needs to be either gold bars or any other of the exclusive expensive stuff you can buy from the app
I shouldn’t forget that today the game also demands that your zoi should sing a serenade or two and be the only one who is showing the affection 
To top it all the game is also throwing that your zoi should be the host when it comes down to dating.. what happened with the natural development in between two zoi’s that we had before?
This dating system is perfect if you are having a zoi who is very dominant or being a social butterfly and if you are a creator who likes to be in full control , It also suits creators who likes to create princess stories the rest of us we are not included anymore.. so it is what it is and as a creator who fancy a more natural form of development we are back in the corner that require us to create a solid foundation from the very first beginning so the vibe is gone.. we all know that the team is working hard and we all root for them as always but .. i don’t know.. i am not whining or anything in that direction i am just saying and i deeply respect my fellow creators when it comes down to storytelling ps i am also amazing drained right now i just cannot find the spark in creating under these conditions.
It works rather nicely if you do have a pre set couple or a family because their arch types is now showing in who they are and how well they work with eachother ( and who is not )
all the drama that comes with that is something else hahah ( i have tested it out ) InZoi have found a new way to approach that section that is certain, i bet s a lot of people is right now having fun with that 
I told my hubby about this and i asked him “why aren’t you singing a serenade for me on valentines day” he just glanced at me and said " you wish" 
i also told him i wanted a gold bar to he just shook his head and started muttering and went inside the kitchen started cooking hahah
oke.. i think i am going to grab another cup of coffee
I wish you one amazing weekend and that goes for everybody who is reading this
Take good care of eachother 
I’m not sure if this has already been mentioned, but I would really love a feature that allows each family member to manage door access permissions. Right now, it’s quite inconvenient that only the head of the household can control this.
This is a very interesting point that nobody has talked about before. I actually didn’t know this since I play with one zoi households mostly, but it’s kind of crazy especially for bigger families where you’d expect everyone to have some level of control over their own space.
It feels like one of those small things that could make a big difference for realism and gameplay.
Have you run into situations where this caused issues or just general inconvenience?
This is mainly an issue for the kinds of gameplay scenarios I enjoy. I like creating households where different characters live on the same lot, for example making a dormitory setup or having them live as roommates with their own rooms. But it’s difficult to do that right now because only the head of the household can control the door permissions, so I can’t properly assign who lives in which room.
It also makes it impossible to roleplay situations like a teenager locking their room for privacy from their parents, since there’s no way to give individual characters control over their own personal space.