Should the Golden Duck League Reward Contribution Over Activity?

I wanted to share a thought that has been on my mind for a while.

First, I’d like to say this as a Golden Duck myself. This isn’t about criticizing the people who have earned the badge, nor is it about taking recognition away from anyone. I genuinely like the idea of recognizing community members who invest their time in helping inZOI grow.

What concerns me is whether the current system is rewarding the right things.

From the outside, it can sometimes feel as though activity is valued much more than contribution. Posting frequently appears to be the clearest path toward progression, even if those posts don’t add much to discussions. In some cases, it may even unintentionally encourage repetitive posting, thread derailments, or participation driven more by recognition than by a genuine desire to help the game or the community.

A recognition system naturally influences behavior. If it rewards quantity, people will understandably focus on quantity. If it rewards meaningful contributions, people will put more effort into making those contributions.

What worries me most is that the system doesn’t seem to take overall community behaviour into account. Someone can post constantly while regularly creating unnecessary conflict, making discussions less welcoming, or contributing to a tense atmosphere, and still continue progressing through the rankings. At the same time, someone who may only have time to participate occasionally, but consistently writes thoughtful feedback, detailed bug reports, helpful technical replies, guides, or creates resources for other players, can easily fall behind simply because they aren’t posting all day.

I don’t think that reflects the kind of community many of us hope to build.

A healthy forum isn’t measured by the number of posts it generates. It’s measured by the value those posts bring. It’s built by people who make others feel welcome, who help solve problems, who share ideas respectfully, and who genuinely want both the game and the community to grow.

Maybe it’s worth revisiting how the Golden Duck League works.

Some ideas that came to mind are:

  • Give greater importance to the quality and usefulness of contributions.
  • Recognize helpful bug reports, technical support, guides, tutorials, and modding resources.
  • Take respectful behaviour and positive interactions into account alongside activity.
  • Consider community recommendations or moderator recognition for particularly valuable contributors.
  • Or, if those things are too difficult to evaluate fairly, consider whether an activity-based ranking system is the best approach at all.

Recognition shapes the culture of a community. If we reward the behaviours we want to see, we’ll naturally encourage more of them. I think the Golden Duck League could become an even better reflection of the people who quietly help make these forums welcoming, informative, and enjoyable for everyone.

Thank you to Kjun, the moderators, and everyone on the team for continuing to invest in both the game and this community. I know managing a growing forum is not an easy task, and this suggestion comes from a place of appreciation. I care about inZOI and these forums, and I’d love to see them continue growing into a place where meaningful contributions are valued just as much as active participation.

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  • Take respectful behaviour and positive interactions into account alongside activity.

I don’t think i’ve disrespected anyone. Disagreeing with an idea is not disrespectful. If we all “agreed” saying something like “great idea” wouldn’t we all be “uniform” people? If someone to an idea is it logical to attack that person? " by making accusations such as disrespectful ?

Disagreeing with some suggestions doesn’t mean it’s disrespectful even if you see it that way.

Not exactly sure what’s happening, but I think since I’ve been on the forum a bit, I try to give my 2 cents to it and I don’t mean to get personal, Mazi.

I PERSONALLY can handle your posts and replies, now that I think I know you a bit better (obviously it can only go so far in a public forum). One of my early wishlist posts was “Can we have a height slider?” And your reply was “Do you want 3-4m tall Zois?”(or something along that line) When I was new to the forum, I was thinking “Okay? Weird reply to my question?”

Now I know that it’s the type of person you are. You don’t necessarily mean it in a rude way, but blunt/humorous. This might come off to others as rude, offensive or in a way that you don’t take their post seriously.

As I said, I know that it is your kind of style now and we even sometimes joke around a bit together. BUT it might still come off to others in a way that make them feel uncomfortable or self-cautious about their post, especially if they are new.

I don’t mean it as an attack to you, it’s just how might others perceive you, even when you don’t mean harm​:four_leaf_clover:

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I said that as a joke. :grin:

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I know, that’s why I mentioned that later on that it’s the way you roll​:+1:t2:

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  • Take respectful behaviour and positive interactions into account alongside activity.

You think; If we all said “I agree” and “great idea” wouldn’t we all be the same kind of person?

Thank you :innocent:

I think a sprinkle of personality and humor is nice obviously. But since it is a forum for suggestions, bugs and so on, we also need to prevail constructive criticism, tips and maybe descriptions on why we agree/disagree. Per example:

Wishlist Idea: I want an elephant as a pet in inZoi

Reply: (I am not funny, but imagine some funny Mazi-reply here) and then why you agree/disagree, so the person, who posted it, can consider, how you mean it. It is sometimes hard to convert our intentions through just text and it can come across harsher or more “rude”

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Sometimes people want to confuse games with real life. “sunscreen” “get a sunburn” “I’d also love to see things like strict schedules, trainee life, company rules, fan interactions, comeback promotions, variety shows, and the pressure of maintaining a perfect public image. It would make playing as an idol feel unique and challenging instead of just feeling like any other celebrity career.” There are comments like these. I also consider these to be exaggerations. This doesn’t mean it’s disrespectful. Don’t you think so too? :grin:

I think especially with the life-sim genre, it’s sometimes hard to sort what belongs into the game as a fun and well thought out mechanic and what should stay out since it is still a game and not real life and could take out the fun of it.

I PERSONALLY don’t take it as rude, but others might because they would like to see an explanation on WHY it should not be part of the game/taking it too far, rather than brushing it off as “you exaggerate, this is just a game”.

Again, that is MY opinion, not speaking on how others feel/should feel about it

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But people consider the phrase “you’re exaggerating” to be disrespectful. It would be absurd to take this statement as disrespectful Much harsher words are disrespectful.. :slightly_smiling_face:

I think this is more a matter of how it is perceived and maybe also partially a language/cultural difference.

Per example, in my language, exaggerating is taken as something to diminish their statement, not taking them seriously and brushing them off as “yea you’re just taking it to far. Your opinion is not valid”. This, in conclusion, COULD be taken as rude

I again want to mention that I am not speaking in anyone’s name. This is only my opinion. Obviously I cannot know how everyone feels towards anybody and it is not my place to do so.

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It could be due to cultural differences. Yes you’re right. :slightly_smiling_face:

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I’m gonna weigh in with my personal opinion here as well. First off, thank you again for opening such an important thread here, @itsmechiie7. You’re always writing what’s been in my head for days too.

Disclaimer: I am a Golden Duck member myself, as well as one of only two Trust Level 3 members in this forum (I’ve had this position on my own from early February to last Thursday and felt very lonely to say the least). While the Duck League gets chosen quarterly by the team, Trust Levels from 1-3 are granted by the forum statistics (as far as the forum rules state). Trust Level 4 can only be granted by the team and is atm reserved for official team members only = devs, mods, staff. While the Duck League offers early access and other appreciative rewards to its members, higher Trust Levels come with more tools and management options to influence the forum directly.
(I hope that’s a sufficient overview for anyone who didn’t pay much attention to either “title” so far)

On the one hand, I fully understand and, as mentioned, have thought about the Duck League in general quite often since becoming a member myself. Currently it’s solely treated as a reward system for very active users, not demanding any further kind of effort after they become Ducks. Once you’re the top rank, Golden Duck, you will automatically receive all rewards of the past, present and future. Even though I understand that the team has a lot of work to do every day and might not want to deal with “degrading” formerly very active users, this system does not sit completely right with me tbh.
On the other hand however, I know that connecting the Duck membership to certain amounts of activity, helpful responses and interaction in general might be unfair to the members who simply can’t be active as often, but still “deserve” their spot.

Also another thing to take into consideration is how different the thread categories are. For example, I wouldn’t be able to come up with so many detailed and numerous wishlist suggestions as @Mazikeen does. I’m also not into modding, like you are @itsmechiie7. But all of us come together when it comes to bugs or technical issues, simply trying to help other users to the best of our abilities. None of these efforts weight more than others, because they’re all useful and raise the forum to another level.

I think all of your suggestions for forum improvement are valid and should be considered by the team. The “community recommendations/moderator recognition for valuable contributors” one is part of the Trust Level system right now though, as Trust Level 3 is considered " these are your potential moderators" by the original, pre-designed forum guidelines.

→ We need more Trust Level 3 peeps! I’ll die on that hill… but at least not on my own anymore xD

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I’m lucky to have a friend like you. @HeinziDerHeld :grin:

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That’s really good information. I’ll be honest, until there was the recent note about the duck league member post from the devs, I didn’t even know it was a thing. I thought those were just some icons you get with a badge or something. And I wasn’t aware of the trust system either. I only got a note recently that my trust lvl raised. Thanks a lot for the info!

I also agree with the point that every kind of contribution is helpful. Be it a small idea on the wishlist, modding tips or someone like you, who always helps with technical matters in a super friendly way.

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Those who don’t know me might call me “disrespectful” but @HeinziDerHeld is the one who knows me best, both on and off the forum. :innocent:

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I think this, or I **am **being misunderstood. I’m not suggesting the game should reflect real life 1:1, I’m suggesting deeper mechanics that make the idol career more engaging as a simulation. That’s the whole point of my idea.

I want to address the “blunt” point. Being honest or critical is fine, but there’s a difference between blunt feedback and wording that comes across as dismissive toward other people’s ideas.

I’m completely open to disagreement, but I’d prefer if my ideas are discussed without being framed in a way that implies I’m misunderstanding how games work.

Also, I wasn’t aware I was being directly referenced. If me or my posts are going to be brought into discussion, I’d appreciate being tagged next time instead of mentioned indirectly.

+Yes I did mention before that you came off as blunt but I did find you disrespectful back then also, I just wanted to word it nicer but now (respectfully) you’re hiding behind that word to justify your disrespect.

Thank you.

Talking about the same things will only harm us. We have cultural differences. Please let’s drop the subject. You still stubbornly keep saying “disrespectful”. How well do you know me to judge me? You’re the one who’s disrespectful. Before you call me disrespectful, consider whether you deserve to be respected yourself.

Again, there is a clear difference between being blunt and being outright disrespectful. You keep hiding behind that word.. and why are you acting as if I continuously called you disrespectful? I called you blunt before but now I’m being more honest.. but I never continuously called you disrespectful. I thought I’d have fun and share my ideas within the community but seems to me that not everyone has the same objective here in this forum.

And also, You are the one who mentioned me yet again after you said you’d let it go under my post and yet mentioned me here again where I couldn’t have known.

So who is really dragging it? It seems to me that you keep wanting to be ‘bLuNt’ and quirky but others can’t be blunt back to you huh?

(Not to mention you being called disrespectful by others who were way longer here than me continuous times where most said that this is a repeating pattern with your disrespect)

But okay! We are all disrespectful and you are just a blunt little quirky gal :teddy_bear::white_heart:


There are some very valid points here and I think the most important thing for us all to remember is that new users don’t know anyone here and communication should be respectful, supportive and thoughtful at all times towards all users and members :custom_butterfly: :custom_heart:

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