Can it be possible to have a zoi be vegan? They can dislike meat, but then the meals force them to eat it and get upset. Can we either have more vegan meals or the option to add or remove meat? For example, there is a salad and chicken salad. Can we not have beans on toast and an english breakfast? Both are eaten for morning meals in the UK, beans on toast more than an english breakfast.
I don’t want to say outright “no”, but just to be sure the game doesn’t promote harmful ideas of child diets and parenting… This and this are why children shouldn’t be allowed to do so in inZoi.
I claim no right to judge your diet, I swear. Only that, pediatrically-speaking, children cannot survive on a vegan diet. I understand that’s horrifying to many people who live a vegan lifestyle as an adult, but it is the absolute truth. Legumes cannot provide enough protein on their own for children’s brains to develop. Nature is sometimes cruel, and while I wouldn’t want a child eating lamb or veal, they have to have - at the very least - a “vegetarian”/lactovarian or piscelactovarian (seafood and fish acceptable) diet.
Other than that, I see no reason to restrict this beyond the age of majority, yes. Maybe “becoming vegan” could be some sort of “turning point” mechanic where they decide to reduce or remove meat from their diet after turning into an adult Zoi?
I hope this didn’t hurt, I wasn’t trying to be offensive, only bluntly truthful. Vegan diets have killed children, it’s awful, and this game should not encourage that kind of “activist parenting”.
EDIT: Thank you for clearing up my confusion, you may safely ignore my post.
I think you need to do your research before saying that vegan diets kill people.
Regardless, this is a game. My zoi will not die from being vegan, she will die from having no food.
Also, this has nothing to do with activism. You can choose to have a zoi not like meat, but then not have the option for them to not eat it. Your response is more about your opinion on veganism (which is flawed), then gameplay.
You should take a look at some studies on pubmed about this or refer to the NHS. There’s plenty of information there.
By adding in the take it does not outright encourage any sort of abuse, it simply encourages people to tailor their game to their play style. If someone is vegan and was raised vegan they may want to experience that in their game. Maybe like in bitlife you can even do diets like keto diets or paleo or all that, or extreme ones like hot cheeto diets. But, still in no way does the vegan diet alone have to kill people in InZoi, even if it were true that that’s what happens.
Some religions have required veganism long before the term or diet was ever invented in the West. For example, Buddhism requires you to not eat anything that came from harming an animal, and in Buddhism you are supposed to eat no meat, no fish, and no eggs, and depending on how the animal was treated during extraction of milk, potentially no dairy unless you get your dairy from your own pet goats or a neighbor who has well-cared for pet milk-giving animals. Otherwise it’s also no dairy. Children have been raised that way for thousands of years because Buddhism is several thousand years older than Christianity. Hinduism also technically requires no meat diet, but not no dairy; however many Hindu people ignore this. There are other religions also like this. You are right that young kids need milk, but outside of cultures that were at war almost constantly, human evolution is based on the idea of children breastfeeding until about five years old. In societies where this was normal, there is no need to worry about whether the child is getting the nutrients they need from milk because they get milk from mom or another lactating female in the family or community. In the West due to the history of near-constant warfare and the old religions (pre-Christian) in Europe revering war as holy, it became normal to stop breastfeeding before the child was even one years old, but this is detrimental to the child’s growth as no other species’ milk is quite as healthy for them as human milk, since they are human. But nowadays there are supplements you can include in the child’s diet to make sure they get all their needs without needing to breastfeed them longer than is socially acceptable and without needing them to drink another animal’s milk. I am not vegan, but I know that many many people for thousands of years have been raising their kids with no meat, and meat is absolutely not required for a child to get their protein needs. That is simply false. Children who die due to “veganism” are not dying due to the diet, they are dying because the parents did a bad job. If the only thing you fed your kid was cheese and bacon every day, they will eventually die too, because there is not enough of everything they need and too much of some things. FYI I was raised Buddhist so didn’t eat meat my whole childhood plus I was under a ton of stress that should have been enough to kill me as a child or render me low-IQ but I get straight A’s in college and grew up just fine. And my parents didnt even really try to make sure I got enough of all the nutrients. But I was fine. So you are very misinformed, that is not “activist” parenting, it is “traditionalist” parenting in some cultures and religions. I don’t mean any offense either, just trying to help you understand.
A vegan diet isn’t automatically recommended for children because it requires careful planning and monitoring. But to say that children cannot survive on a vegan diet is simply false. Many official nutrition bodies state that a well-balanced vegan diet can be suitable at all stages of life, including childhood.
The articles you mentioned are extreme cases. In the first one, the parents were clearly suffering from serious issues, and in the second it was raw foodism — which is not the same as veganism.
Yes, there have been very rare cases where poorly planned vegan diets caused serious harm, even death, in children. But these cases are so unusual that they make headlines. On the other hand, the omnivorous diet, as it is commonly practiced today, causes illness and death every single day in both children and adults — obesity, type 2 diabetes, cardiovascular diseases, and foodborne infections like listeria, salmonella, or E. coli.
In short, any diet can be dangerous if it’s unbalanced. The difference is that rare vegan failures get all the attention, while the much more common harms of the omnivorous diet are often overlooked.
Actually, this is fair. I wasn’t trying to offend anyone, just prevent serious issues. I accept this answer and will say no more.
Sorry about this.
My mistake.
Never mind, I admit I was mistaken.
No worries, I know you meant well ![]()
I think people were just trying to help you by sharing more information that they guessed you didn’t know, because knowledge is a blessing and useful. At least, that’s what I was doing. You are fine, and I hope you don’t feel bad from what I or anyone else said. It was clear you were trying to be helpful, not harmful. I was trying to be helpful also, so I hope you aren’t hurt. It’s really admirable and rare though to see someone publicly admit to changing their mind or being misinformed or not knowing something, and shows how good of character you are. It’s amazing and thank you for being amazing
It’s ok. You were using the information that you had. It’s really bold of you to admit that you were wrong and your apology is much appreciated. Please don’t be afraid to post your opinion here or to ask questions when you’re not sure. It’s better to ask and be corrected then to go about being wrong. Nobody knows everything.
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When I was playing yesterday I saw that there is a vegan snack van. This baffles me. If you can have a vegan snack van, why can’t you have a vegan zoi? Both of my zois give off grey hearts when they eat eggs or meat. One of them only likes salad. That’s not my doing, he’s a NPC zoi that my original zoi married, he’s a health nut and a clean freak. He’s playable now that he’s moved in, but I didn’t do the salad loving thing.
Anyway, it just seems inconsistent.
Probably unimplemented, tbh. I would think if there’s a vegan food van they already plan to add that option. Obviously I could be wrong, though, but they’ve been good about this stuff in the past.